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Started by DLINEMAN, Jan 30 2010 07:06 PM

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 07:16 PM

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 07:19 PM

Whats your formula for depth?

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 07:49 PM

My understanding of the tags is the pole comes with a stamp that is what we call the birthdate?
It will tell you what kind of tree where manufactured , and class and height?
Then any tag outside of the stamp was placed by local utilities as permitted and contacted ect?
We only put our ID tags here if we own it? Not sure if this is common practice everywhere but I am curios?

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 08:40 PM

QUOTE (wood stabber @ Feb 1 2010, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Whats your formula for depth?


I know there is an actual formula but general rule Im familiar with is 1 down for 5 up, meaning a 30' is 6' deep, altho it might not be accurate for the taller ones.
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Posted 01 February 2010 - 08:55 PM

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QUOTE (wood stabber @ Feb 1 2010, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Whats your formula for depth?


I know there is an actual formula but general rule Im familiar with is 1 down for 5 up, meaning a 30' is 6' deep, altho it might not be accurate for the taller ones.
Its 10% plus 2 feet so a 40 is 6ft. a 45 is 6.5 ft usually go 7 ft. a 50 is 7ft and so on.

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 08:58 PM

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QUOTE (strange052 @ Feb 1 2010, 11:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (wood stabber @ Feb 1 2010, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Whats your formula for depth?


I know there is an actual formula but general rule Im familiar with is 1 down for 5 up, meaning a 30' is 6' deep, altho it might not be accurate for the taller ones.
Its 10% plus 2 feet so a 40 is 6ft. a 45 is 6.5 ft usually go 7 ft. a 50 is 7ft and so on.



Ive heard that rule as well. bear in mind, it always depends on soil type and quality, some areas/soils require deeper settings
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Posted 02 February 2010 - 11:46 AM

The formula we were taught is. The brand mark on all system poles from 16 to 50 foot length is located 10 feet from the butt of the pole. On poles 55 feet and longer, the brand mark is located 14 feet from the butt.

To get the distance the pole is set in the ground, measure the distance from the ground to the brand mark, then subtract that distance from 10 if it is a 16 to 50 ft pole or 14 if it is over 55 feet.

Sound about right power fellars?? I'm just a cable guy, I only know what they teach me lol.
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Posted 02 February 2010 - 12:32 PM

Industry standard is 10% + 2',,,but some places gotta be different.Rock holes and sandy soil are different in their own right too!

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Posted 02 February 2010 - 03:43 PM

LOL.. I have heard of the 10% +2 also..
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 07:35 PM

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Industry standard is 10% + 2',,,but some places gotta be different.Rock holes and sandy soil are different in their own right too!


The standards are pretty much the same everywhere from what I see, here's ours:


Length of Pole in (Feet) ---------- Depth of Setting in Firm Ground
metres -----------------------------on Straight Lines in Metre (Feet)

11 (35) -------------------------------- 1.8 (6'0")
12 (40)--------------------------------- 1.8 (6'0")
14 (45)----------------------------------2.0 (6'8")
15 (50)--------------------------------- 2.1 (7'0")
17 (55)-------------------------------- 2.3 (7'6")
18 (60)--------------------------------- 2.4 (8'0")
20 (65)--------------------------------- 2.6 (8'6")
21 (70)--------------------------------- 2.8 (9'0")
NOTES:
1) A Mark showing length and class is stamped on all poles 3 m (10 Feet) from the end. Depth of
setting can therefore be determined by measuring from this mark to the ground and
subtracting.
2) Depth in rock may be reduced by 300 mm. (1 foot)
3) Sand shields should be used when digging in sand.
4) Care should be taken to control surface water run-off.
5) Holes not used immediately shall be covered with heavy timber or crossarms.
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Posted 02 March 2010 - 02:54 PM

Oldest pole I climbed was in Frostburg MD. Date nail was 29 (as in 1929). It was a 30' class 6 secondary pole. Still solid and probably still standing. That was in 2005. The guy working with me was a 2nd generation lineman and was trying to complete his father's date nail collection and he took the nail.

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Posted 02 March 2010 - 06:53 PM

QUOTE (strange052 @ Feb 1 2010, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (wood stabber @ Feb 1 2010, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Whats your formula for depth?


I know there is an actual formula but general rule Im familiar with is 1 down for 5 up, meaning a 30' is 6' deep, altho it might not be accurate for the taller ones.



we set our 30's 5 1/2 feet 6 foot on a 35
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Posted 04 March 2010 - 12:07 AM

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Just was wondering what the oldest pole you'll have change out.I change out a 1939,40-7 the other day.The pole was still solid in the ground and fair shape on top.Still good enough to climb.


We just changed one out recently that I think was built around the time of Christ himself.......

This was a hard dead-end that was still hanging in there.

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 09:39 AM


Hey TLW, I surrender[1].gif bet christ WORKED on that deadend Voskl1[1].gif That is a scary looking set of arms, looks like the company got thier money out of that pole before the changeout.
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Posted 04 March 2010 - 07:08 PM

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Just was wondering what the oldest pole you'll have change out.I change out a 1939,40-7 the other day.The pole was still solid in the ground and fair shape on top.Still good enough to climb.


We just changed one out recently that I think was built around the time of Christ himself.......

This was a hard dead-end that was still hanging in there.


What do you mean old,,, looks just like the stuff I seen in New Orleans when i went to Gustav!

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 10:25 PM

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QUOTE (DLINEMAN @ Jan 30 2010, 09:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just was wondering what the oldest pole you'll have change out.I change out a 1939,40-7 the other day.The pole was still solid in the ground and fair shape on top.Still good enough to climb.


We just changed one out recently that I think was built around the time of Christ himself.......

This was a hard dead-end that was still hanging in there.


What do you mean old,,, looks just like the stuff I seen in New Orleans when i went to Gustav!


Yeah, but the stuff you worked on down there been around since the time of Adam and Eve! The history behind the stuff in New Orleans is that it was built (pay attention 81) to feed the Northern Lights!
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Posted 06 March 2010 - 06:51 AM

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QUOTE (TexasLineworker @ Mar 4 2010, 12:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Just was wondering what the oldest pole you'll have change out.I change out a 1939,40-7 the other day.The pole was still solid in the ground and fair shape on top.Still good enough to climb.


We just changed one out recently that I think was built around the time of Christ himself.......

This was a hard dead-end that was still hanging in there.


What do you mean old,,, looks just like the stuff I seen in New Orleans when i went to Gustav!


Yeah, but the stuff you worked on down there been around since the time of Adam and Eve! The history behind the stuff in New Orleans is that it was built (pay attention 81) to feed the Northern Lights!


I heard the "Northern Lites" were fed with 2400 kv thats why they fade in and out! But I could be wrong,I also heard 81's dad wired 'em,,,,

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Posted 06 March 2010 - 07:32 AM

LOL@ Dak...
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Posted 09 September 2010 - 10:51 AM

View Postolo131, on 31 January 2010 - 09:57 AM, said:

QUOTE (wood stabber @ Jan 31 2010, 11:54 AM) When the power company sets a new pole the drive a big nail with the year on it,that is supposed to stay in the pole,but guys collect them for trophies.What you see in the pic is the head of the nail with a 12 stamp, meaning the pole was set in 1912.

Now that is Bad Ass!!! Do they do it the same in every state?



they do it in finland too ;)

my oldest is somewhere before 30's that 110kV line was recalled to build 1928 (not accurate information) that was said by our senior linemen, another leg was rock solid and guys told me to come change it before i retire :D
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Posted 17 October 2010 - 05:47 PM

View PostDLINEMAN, on 30 January 2010 - 07:06 PM, said:

Just was wondering what the oldest pole you'll have change out.I change out a 1939,40-7 the other day.The pole was still solid in the ground and fair shape on top.Still good enough to climb.

We changed out a 40-5 that was from 1928 and I didn't have to but I chose to climb it just to strip it so I could say I climbed a 1928 pole. The thing would have stood for a while but we needed to put a 50-2 in for a 3 phase riser.
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