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Does anyone know were I can get some info on what types of tests you need on fiberglass booms (i.e. dielectric, structure) and if they need to be done every six months or yearly? We dont work on live lines, and mangment says if its not hot work the trucks dont need to be inspected. I think thats a buch of B.S. So I would like something in writing to take to them.

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Mike

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Hey Michael,

Not sure if this will help any but, I work for a cable company and we do no hot work EVER...........

and our booms are inspected every 6 months by Altec, So yes I do believe you are right and your management is full of crap.

If I was you I would search the OSHA website and see if they have anything on there that may help you?

PS Welcome to the site :smilie_daumenpos[1]: and good luck with your delema.

WP

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Wish ours was 6 months intervals. It will be a year not much longer, and we still have yet to see the Altec repair guy come back to fix all of our problems, from last year. I am ready to ask my supervisor what gives. Last year they put on stickers saying our buckets were not insulated. Maybe to get out of doing insulated tests or whatever for now on. Dont know. Long story short sometimes I wonder why preventive maintenance is ever uttered, because I do not see management doing anything to get it accomplished. Me personally I currently have a small list of things needing done and replaced, but chances are I would win the lottery, I don't gamble by the way, before I see anything resolved before something goes down. I was told they should be done yearly. Two years ago I did see the Altec technician dig out bird nests out of one of our Arm Lift's alone. Take it from my own experience, might not be Altec's fault in my situation, just managements, but I would seriously go for the 6 month maintenance, because no system ever has enough bucket trucks. When you need one the worst is when they are down, and that is not worth the risk.

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Do to the incident somewhere where one of the Altec buckets seperate from the turrent (which also happened to one of our distribution troublemen), a stronger plan is being implemented. Ours are inspected annually by the garage and altec, we also inspect the primary parts when we start it up...turrent bolts, visible cracks etc...and most important of all the hydraulic fluid....

Have found a new glitch with the Altec buckets - if you are in the air (truck properly set up, of course), and at an angle of less than 45 deg. to the back of the truck and the truck shifts in any manner, the safety interlocks will engage and not even the emergency controls at the base will work...the motor will engage but no controls including the safety bleed off to lower the bucket will work...you will have to bump the legs up a notch to get control back...My bucket is less than 2 years old with no mechanical issues otherwise - I baby her...

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CHECK WITH ITL...INDEPENDENT TEST LABORATORIES (SP).THEY DO DI-0ELECTRIC TESTING FOR ALL OF OUR UNITS...ANNUALLY!!!!

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Thanks guys. I have a call in to the local OSHA office. They are going to send my something on all of the rules and regulations. I'll post them when I get it.

-Mike :14_3_1[1]:

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When I worked w/ Falcon, we had a guy come out once a year and inspect the booms. Where I am working at now NEVER has had an inspection.

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Well OSHA finally got back to me today and the gentleman there told me that they enforce the ANSI 92.2 -2001 Standard, which covers Powered Platforms, Manlifts, and Vehicle-Mounted Work Platforms. Unfortunately all he said is you have to abide by this standard; which they do not post it on their website, you have to buy it from ANSI in the form of a .pdf file. Well I bought it, and if anyone wants me to email them a copy let me know (may as well get my moneys worth) Just send me an email at chevrolet_572ci@sbcglobal.net and I will send you the .pdf file. Here is a list of some of the items covered by ANSI 92.2 -2001

Definitions:

Electrical Systems, Devices and Test Procedures.

Responsibilities of Manufacturers.

Responsibilities of Dealers and Installers.

Responsibilities of Owners:

Training, Retraining, and Familiarization of Operators. (New)

Responsibility of Users: (New)

Responsibilities of Operators.

Responsibilities of Renters, Lessors or Lessees.

Stay Safe

-Mike :14_3_1[1]:

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Ill take a copy! I sent ya a PM with my email addy.

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I'd be careful with this one.......make sure there is no disclaimer attached to it......like no reproduction, no distribution clauses.......they could hang us on the copyright law.

Trust me, we found out the hard way......there was a little handbook, about 35-40 pages long that was cute, funny and for people in supervisory positions. Our former boss bought one, made copies for everyone in the office to read and have a BS session on it. Well, to make a long story short, a former disgruntled employee wrote the publisher, who in turn contacted our legal department, and the sh$t hit the fan :smilie_daumenpos[1]::smilie_daumenpos[1]:

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I'd be careful with this one.......make sure there is no disclaimer attached to it......like no reproduction, no distribution clauses.......they could hang us on the copyright law.

Trust me, we found out the hard way......there was a little handbook, about 35-40 pages long that was cute, funny and for people in supervisory positions. Our former boss bought one, made copies for everyone in the office to read and have a BS session on it. Well, to make a long story short, a former disgruntled employee wrote the publisher, who in turn contacted our legal department, and the sh$t hit the fan :smilie_daumenpos[1]::13_10_3[1]:

Didn't think they could do that unless money was going to be made from the copies. :smilie_daumenpos[1]:

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Didn't think they could do that unless money was going to be made from the copies. :smilie_daumenpos[1]:

They can and they did......probably has to do with the fact that the book was a purchase, and when we made copies of it and distributed it around the office......1) we violated the copyright law, and 2) they lost money....they made money off one book, when we copied it, they lost money off of about 40 :smilie_daumenpos[1]::13_10_3[1]:

It's probably along the same lines as copying a DVD or VHS tape......you're not gonna sell it to make money off of it, but you violated their copyright law......

In this case, I don't know. I'm just saying be careful....would hate for someone who's trying to help out everyone get in doo doo over it :13_10_3[1]::13_10_3[1]:

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I never thought of that, I'll have to check on that.

Thanks

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In our safety manual it says that if the any part of the boom if extended all the way out can come with the minimum approach distance than one of two things has to happen. One is that the boom has to be insulated, which would mean that it would have to be tested. Two, that if the boom is uninsulated then the truck has to be grounded with a minimum 4/0 ground to a ground rod. Now most of our rules are based off of OSHA regs so I would imagine that somewhere in that ANSI standard it talks about these requirements. So if you set up on a pole, even though you are not going into the primary zone, if you are able to reach it with the bucket you have to meet these requirements.

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too bad the lineman from washington state didn't do a thorough inspection of his altec bucket truck before going to a school last spring to help with an egg drop . he went up in the bucket with a female teacher when the boom seperated from the turrent. it was discovered that eight of the twenty bolts were missing. this truck was only a few months old at the time of the tradgedy. the lineman was killed and the teacher was severly injured. it happened in front of all the students.

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Here is some photos of my first bucket, operated it like this for awhile and was putting heat on my boss to change it for several months. When he did, it wasn't much better and it to went to the waste side after a few months. He wouldn't pay for a new one then or now. The last truck I had, instead of fixing it, he is sending it out of the country to another system with grooves cut on the sides of the inter boom. It's has a twist in it so it started cutting into the sides. He has no safety concerns for others what so ever.

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Cablewithaview..... ya actually used that?? HOLY SH*T!!!!

No way Id stick my self in that and trust it to hold up my :devil-smiley-024[1]: and the tools I need.

I woulda drove that thing right to a state inspector and had the whole unit comdemed

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I SURE WILL NOT USE THAT BUCKET EVEN TO PUT FLOWER IN IT :wink: WE CALL IT A WIDOW MAKER

HERE WE TEST THE BOOM TWICE A YEAR AND THE MECHANIC VERIFY THE BOOM AND BUCKET EVERY MONTH

FOR CRACK :devil-smiley-024[1]:

JOS BE SAFE

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It had a strap around the top when I got it, the front top piece broke off later on and that's when for sure I said enough.

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Welcome to the site Mike if you have time throw 1 copy for me thanks :confused-smiley-013[1]:

BULLDOZER :philippinesflag:

Safety is my Game

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Sorry about the poor quality (low light, taken with a camera-phone)..

This is a shot of a 13 yr old TeleLift bucket on a one ton van. Not sure how long the inner main boom rail had been cracking like that, but luckily our mechanic caught it before disaster struck. The crack is completely through the rail, both sides and bottom, and has travelled up the rail 'meat' about 1/2 way to separation.

We're not sure how it happened, but my guess is from traveling down the road vibrations (as opposed to user-weight issues, which would crack it from the top-down ?)

These lifts get an annual "full" inspection at a licensed facility, and of course there's the daily driver check. I guess I missed this one, as the crack was located just above the last roller, and is somewhat hidden when the bucket is retracted (the photo has the bucket stung out just a little bit.. the roller is the dark blob 8" or so to the left of the crack).

The truck was taken out of service, the lift completely disassembled, and the rail was replaced. All is well now.

Proof how easy it is to miss something important !!

Edited by Dave72

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That coulda been ugly if it went unnoticed!

Good thing ya caught it, and had it fixed

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