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[sasey_2]

Hello im looking for a old 3m product it is called a 4046 mechanical crimper aka one arm bandit looking for one in working shape other wise any parts that anyone might have i need a handle for the one that i have currently and my other one is in rough shape and i would really hate to get rid of it

[lastcenturytel]

Is the 4046, the mechanical MS2 crimper? I don't think 3m makes it anymore and I haven't seen any on ebay. I'll let you know if I come across one, though.

[linecowboy]

my forman's a tool and i ll give him to you. hell i ll bring him to you

[Norscaner]

OK check out this page and tell us what you want...you are asking for a pipe clamp....is that what you need?


http://multimedia.mm...;ZZZC3FJVyyyyx-


Kinda hard to splice with a pipe clamp.

[sasey_2]

No i am not looking for the pipe or the pipe clamp its a handle that you turn and it brings down the crimping head instead of using the red handled hand press

[Norscaner]

NFI partner A 4046 is a pipe clamp that grips the pipe that runs across the splice on a MS2 splicing setup. Is it a mod splicing setup your using ??
Give us a little more info and maybe we can help you out, I am sure there is someone here that has more hours bent over the thing than we want to remember.

[strange052]

The only attachment I have ever seen with any sort of screw, is the adjustment screw on the hand pump or foot pump style of crimper. The only other crimper I have seen or used is the red handled ratchet type.

[sasey_2]

No i am not looking for the pipe or the pipe clamp its a handle that you turn and it brings down the crimping head instead of using the red handled hand press

[sasey_2]

Once upon a time 3m made a splicing rig called a 4046 it was a all in one unit it had the spllice head and crimmper all in one like the 110 splicing rig and i am just looking for the handle for the 4046 i tried the handle for the 110 but it did not work i can be reached here or email or at 262 355 6307 if you have any more questions

[ka3s]

I have one, I know Im a few years late for this post. But if anyone is looking for one, let me know

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[Dave72]

Im wondering what the advantage is to one of those ?
Just that you dont have to carry a separate 'red handled crimper' ?
The red handled crimper also has a sort of torque stop where it clicks out in bypass once the specified pressure is applied .. does the one arm bandit also do that , or is it all just brute force with the lever handle ??

[lastcenturytel]

Shoot I don't even have the 4036-25, "red handled crimper", though I asked for one about 5 years ago. I've got the hydraulic crimper with the 4' hose between the pump and the crimping head. That has a pressure bypass as well. I kinda like the look of the mechnical crimper, it's sort of like the Weco 890 for 710's. I bet you just need to feel for a good crimp with that crimper. Nothing worse though than getting a bad crimp on an MS2 because then you are just screwed. Happens to me every once in awhile, the cap won't seat and the pairs are cut but not terminated. Let the cursing begin at that point.

[nutsleft]

Shoot I don't even have the 4036-25, "red handled crimper", though I asked for one about 5 years ago. I've got the hydraulic crimper with the 4' hose between the pump and the crimping head. That has a pressure bypass as well. I kinda like the look of the mechnical crimper, it's sort of like the Weco 890 for 710's. I bet you just need to feel for a good crimp with that crimper. Nothing worse though than getting a bad crimp on an MS2 because then you are just screwed. Happens to me every once in awhile, the cap won't seat and the pairs are cut but not terminated. Let the cursing begin at that point.

I suppose that is why I like 710 over ms2, not that it does not happen with 710. It seems with ms2 that if you have a bad splice it can hide it better than the 710

[lastcenturytel]

That used to be the case until they started using clear caps on the 4000 and 4005 MS2 modules. That way you can see when you have a cross or a short. With the opaque modules it wasn't always immediately obvious that you F'd it up. Honestly I find the MS2 to be a pain in the ass to use. You lay all your 25 pairs in there in the spring and then you have to go back to the end you started at to retention the pairs because now that end has slack in it and you can't put the cap on without crossing everthing up. I was born in a Bell family, I worked for a Bell company, and I bought and 890 tool and a 945 tool off ebay. My plant is former MST&T so anything 15 years old or older is either 710's, UY's, B connectors, or spun and sleeved. I figure it doesn't really matter which mods I use, it's such a mismash. I use the 710 on everything aerial. When you are trying to cut into a cable with little to no slack, it can't be done with the MS2. I don't think you could deflect the strand enough, But man you can get it in a 710 mod almost every time. MS2 is fine in peds and buried splices and such if you have the patience, it just sucks for aerial. 3M makes some good stuff and then they make some garbage. Things I love are 2273 locator, 965DSP and AMS test sets, UY2's, 211's, 88T, 8882, Splice wrap, and SLiC closures with the spiral end seal. Things I like not so much....Better Buried Closures(seriously why do you still make those?), ATS/TR terminal strips(OMG come on 3M, those suck bad!!!!) and MS2(the modules are ok, but couldn't there be a better way to hold the pairs in place?). Oh and the old MS2 B-boxes....all I can say is WOW, EPIC FAIL. I am getting way off topic I think. What is the topic in here? Oh....right.....one armed bandit tool search.

[Dak]

Holy Hey Zeus! I thought I was reading a foreign language! Anybody got a video of this stuff in action? I read the words but the pictures just won't form in my mind!

Dak

[The_Merchandise_Group]

Can anyone give me some direction as to where to sell some tools and equipment. We are a liquidation company in north Atlanta, Ga and we have a large quanity of tools and equipmend like several J lashers, C lashers, pulleys, test equipment, fiber equipment and so much more. This is the first liquidation of this type for our company so we are looking for some direction.

Here is my email if you have some interest or help....... wesgore@gmail.com or call Wes at 770-377-7421