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[Dbearman]

The January issue of the IBEW Electrical Worker magazine has an article about the clarification of OSHA PPE rules . According to the new clarification posted on Nov. 15 , 2006 employers must now provide work gloves , fall protection and pole climbing gear . The OSHA rule will go into effect on Febuary 15 , 2008 and employers will have six months to be in compliance. You can find the article and the OSHA web link at www.ibew.org

[639trbl]

THE COMPANY ALREADY PROVIDES ALL PPE AND WORK GLOVES FOR US...NOW GETTING THE ***** LEATHER WORK GLOVES, AND THE SALISBURY KEVLAR GLOVES....KINDA LIKE MECHANIC'S WORK GLOVES.......RAIN GEAR AND AFTER YOU BUY YOUR FIRST SET OF HOOKS,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,CAN BUY PAYROLL DEDUCTION, FOR APPRENTICES........THEY WILL REPLACE ANYTHING THAT BREAKS, WEARS OUT.....INCLUDING HAND TOOLS!!

[Southpaw]

We get provided the ***** over protectors and rubber gloves and the fall arrest harnesses for our buckets but our employer does not provide climbing equipment. That is strictly out of the apprentices or linemans own pockets. My company even changed another policy last year when some climbing equipment got stolen while working in Atlanta. They do not care if its on the company truck or not, if our own personal gear gets stolen during or after work ours, then the company will not pay for it. No if, ands, or butts.

[MTBSW]

OSHA makes it quite clear in the new PPE rule that climbing equipment is considered PPE and as such the company must pay for it. They also state that if an employee damages or loses PPE that the company can make the employee pay for it.

[Southpaw]

Really. Thats interesting. Have you got a link to the updates changes or can they be found somewhere on the OSHA page?

[639trbl]

Really. Thats interesting. Have you got a link to the updates changes or can they be found somewhere on the OSHA page?

GO TO...........www.ibew.org..........AND CLICK ON THE .HEALTH AND SAFETY DEPARTEMENT SECTION OF THE IBEW WEB..................

[bestbudfam]

Really. Thats interesting. Have you got a link to the updates changes or can they be found somewhere on the OSHA page?

GO TO...........www.ibew.org..........AND CLICK ON THE .HEALTH AND SAFETY DEPARTEMENT SECTION OF THE IBEW WEB..................

THANKS, I'M CHECKING IT OUT.

[danimal]

Really. Thats interesting. Have you got a link to the updates changes or can they be found somewhere on the OSHA page?

GO TO...........www.ibew.org..........AND CLICK ON THE .HEALTH AND SAFETY DEPARTEMENT SECTION OF THE IBEW WEB..................

Does this concern IBEW only or does this pertain to all utilities

[639trbl]

Really. Thats interesting. Have you got a link to the updates changes or can they be found somewhere on the OSHA page?

GO TO...........www.ibew.org..........AND CLICK ON THE .HEALTH AND SAFETY DEPARTEMENT SECTION OF THE IBEW WEB..................

Does this concern IBEW only or does this pertain to all utilities

OSHA

[danimal]

Really. Thats interesting. Have you got a link to the updates changes or can they be found somewhere on the OSHA page?

GO TO...........www.ibew.org..........AND CLICK ON THE .HEALTH AND SAFETY DEPARTEMENT SECTION OF THE IBEW WEB..................

Does this concern IBEW only or does this pertain to all utilities

OSHA

I guess that says it.Us cable guys have to buy our own PPE,except for the bucket fall arrest harness.Everything else we buy.Our class 2 hot gloves are out of date by years but that's all we got

[lookinatmyfeet]

Danimal,
You don't have to buy your own. Unless you are a sub. I supply my guys with everything, if they don't like it they can buy there own. Most cable guys that come around have their own climbing gear and prefer to use thier own, and thats fine with me. Hard hats, gloves, orange vests or coats, and all hand tools I provide.
It only makes sense that if you want production you make sure they have the equipment to produce a quality product, and safely (I might add).

[danimal]

Danimal,
You don't have to buy your own. Unless you are a sub. I supply my guys with everything, if they don't like it they can buy there own. Most cable guys that come around have their own climbing gear and prefer to use thier own, and thats fine with me. Hard hats, gloves, orange vests or coats, and all hand tools I provide.
It only makes sense that if you want production you make sure they have the equipment to produce a quality product, and safely (I might add).

Hey LMF,how ya doing? We supply all our own stuff.I have to squander someone elses overdated hot gloves just to get a pair for our crew safety.Safety glasses>>>huh?Gloves>>>>Don't use them myself but you won't find anyone passing any out.Sounds like you have a good gig going on there,bro!It's so bad here that a month ago our transmission park brake in our T-40 didn't work,so instead of fixing it they disabled it because of a part procurement problem.Now we rely on an electrical micro-lock brake for our primary static braking system.The list goes on in our industry around these parts

[jb1]

"TABLE V–2.—EXAMPLES OF PPE FOR
WHICH EMPLOYER PAYMENT IS REQUIRED—
Continued
[If used to comply with an OSHA standard]
Hard hat.
Hearing protection.
Welding PPE.
Items used in medical/laboratory settings to
protect from exposure to infectious agents
(Aprons, lab coats, goggles, disposable
gloves, shoe covers, etc).
Non-specialty gloves:
• Payment is required if they are PPE,
i.e. for protection from dermatitis, severe
cuts/abrasions.
• Payment is not required if they are
only for keeping clean or for cold
weather (with no safety or health consideration).
Rubber sleeves.
Aluminized gloves.
Chemical resistant gloves/aprons/clothing.
Barrier creams (unless used solely for weather-
related protection).
Rubber insulating gloves.
Mesh cut proof gloves, mesh or leather
aprons.
SCBA, atmosphere-supplying respirators (escape
only).
Respiratory protection.
Fall protection.
Ladder safety device belts.
Climbing ensembles used by linemen (e.g.,
belts and climbing hooks).
Window cleaners safety straps.
Personal flotation devices (life jacket).
Encapsulating chemical protective suits.
Reflective work vests.
Bump caps."

[PA BEN]

When the new FR rule comes down Jan. 2009 the company well have to buy your FR clothing too.

[strange052]

My company covers EVERYTHING, tools, PPE, materials. If I buy anything out of pocket, I can submit receipts and get reimbursed.

I know some other companies dont treat their workers as well as we get treated.

[ironhead]

My company covers EVERYTHING, tools, PPE, materials. If I buy anything out of pocket, I can submit receipts and get reimbursed.

I know some other companies dont treat their workers as well as we get treated.

I feel lucky cuz like Strange's co. Mine provides everything you need from glasses and gloves to climbing gear and hand tools. I was having trouble getting my hot gloves to stay on because the cuff was tight on my forearm so they bought me bell cuff gloves and they work much better. The way I see it if a company requires you to use certain PPE then they should have to provide it. I think that between OSHA and Fed labor laws one of them should have already made it mandatory already.

[bmaynar2]

The January issue of the IBEW Electrical Worker magazine has an article about the clarification of OSHA PPE rules . According to the new clarification posted on Nov. 15 , 2006 employers must now provide work gloves , fall protection and pole climbing gear . The OSHA rule will go into effect on Febuary 15 , 2008 and employers will have six months to be in compliance. You can find the article and the OSHA web link at www.ibew.org

PPE rules differ from company to company. But there are a few things that are pretty common.

1. Hard Hat wore at all times
2. Saftey glasses wore at all times
3. Minimum of FR class 2 (recommend FR 3)
4. Kevlar gloves when using a knife or any skinning tool.
5. High visible reflective vests when working within 15 feet of a road or highway.

Of course this is just a few examples, that most companies enforce.

[bmaynar2]

The January issue of the IBEW Electrical Worker magazine has an article about the clarification of OSHA PPE rules . According to the new clarification posted on Nov. 15 , 2006 employers must now provide work gloves , fall protection and pole climbing gear . The OSHA rule will go into effect on Febuary 15 , 2008 and employers will have six months to be in compliance. You can find the article and the OSHA web link at www.ibew.org

PPE rules differ from company to company. But there are a few things that are pretty common.

1. Hard Hat wore at all times
2. Saftey glasses wore at all times
3. Minimum of FR class 2 (recommend FR 3)
4. Kevlar gloves when using a knife or any skinning tool.
5. High visible reflective vests when working within 15 feet of a road or highway.

Of course this is just a few examples, that most companies enforce.

[bmaynar2]

The January issue of the IBEW Electrical Worker magazine has an article about the clarification of OSHA PPE rules . According to the new clarification posted on Nov. 15 , 2006 employers must now provide work gloves , fall protection and pole climbing gear . The OSHA rule will go into effect on Febuary 15 , 2008 and employers will have six months to be in compliance. You can find the article and the OSHA web link at www.ibew.org

Our company gives us an extra .25 cents on the hour as a "Clothing Allowance" that is suppose to cover your FR and Work boots. If you Replace your FR Clothing Regularly you probably already know, that quarter on the hour does not cover near all that. FR clothing is only good for 20 - 30 wash's (and more often if you use any type of fabric softener)But thats how they get around that new OSHA law.