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Posted 02 May 2006 - 03:36 PM

OR ALL LINE WORK IN THE AIR WILL BE DONE BY ROBOTS...OPERATED BY SOME DIPSTICK WHO CAN'T EVEN SPELL LINEMAN Voskl1[1].gif

LOOKS MORE AND MORE LIKE WE ARE TRUELY BECOMING THE LAST OF ..............A DYING BREED Voskl1[1].gif pissedoff[1].gif
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Posted 02 May 2006 - 04:46 PM

And let's not forget the trampolines either. If you burn a pole, you can bounce your ass back up and continue from where you left off. That should save the company some time right there.
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Posted 02 May 2006 - 05:11 PM

QUOTE (TexasLineworker @ May 2 2006, 04:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pretty soon helicopters will be dangling non-conductive lines to the base of the poles for climbers to safety onto..... oh_shit.gif


Well, with all the BS coming down the pike, that is exactly what we are doing. If you have clearance between conductors, drop you on top. If you don't, let you on the ground, drop the line in between, and pick you back up. You have to see it to believe it. Here's a pic at training, not a good one & a little far away, but right over the center hat is the copter landing a lineman on a pole........


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Posted 02 May 2006 - 07:04 PM

BEFORE YA KNOW IT--EVEN THE OLD FARTS WHO WERE GRANDFATHERED IN WITH THE NEW DBL LATCH SAFETIES......WILL HAVE TO TURN IN THE OLD SINGLE LATCH AND GET THE DBL LATCH Voskl1[1].gif

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Posted 02 May 2006 - 07:07 PM

Is that gonna be for distribution also?
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Posted 07 May 2006 - 10:58 AM

bill, yall can still use the single latch safety? Mississippi went to a double latch a few years back. Free climbing here will not be allowed after june. we will all be climbing in the bucksqueeze.
Its better to Prepare and Prevent than it is to Repair and Repent.
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Posted 25 May 2006 - 06:20 PM

Well, the day has come....as of May 15th, double safeties are required. But, since all the safeties are back ordered, we are to use 2 of the regular ones. The second one is supposed to be a rope safety with a grab for ease of use made by Buchingham. Still can free climb towers though...........

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Posted 25 May 2006 - 06:44 PM

QUOTE (future lineman @ May 7 2006, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
bill, yall can still use the single latch safety? Mississippi went to a double latch a few years back. Free climbing here will not be allowed after june. we will all be climbing in the bucksqueeze.


ALL NEW HIRES ARE ISSUED OR REQUIRED TO USE THE DBL LATCH Voskl1[1].gif HANDS LIKE YOUR DAD AND I ARE STILL LEGAL WITH A SINGLE LATCH----------BUT WHEN IT IS BAD ORDERED...THEN WE HAVE TO GO TO THE DBL LATCH Voskl1[1].gif


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Well, the day has come....as of May 15th, double safeties are required. But, since all the safeties are back ordered, we are to use 2 of the regular ones. The second one is supposed to be a rope safety with a grab for ease of use made by Buchingham. Still can free climb towers though...........

If you're caught the first time without it, it's a letter, the second is termination....
Welcome to the new millenium.....


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Posted 27 July 2006 - 02:41 PM

I'm almost halfway through my two week climbing class with First Energy. They are teaching us free climbing, as well as belted.

To qualify out of fall arrest, we have to:
1) Belting climb, install a crossarm at 20', climb over it, boom out left/right, and rotate left/right at the top of the pole.
2) Same as above, but unbelted climb.
3) No fall arrest, unbelted climbing, install a crossarm at 20', climb over it, up to 30' and boom out, and rotate.

Then they watch us for two days while out of fall protection. I still like belted climbing better - it feels more comfortable to me. They whipped us pretty good the first two days though, so I'm still sore/tired. We started with 26, and now have 14 left.
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Posted 27 July 2006 - 06:36 PM

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They are teaching us free climbing



These are my thoughts on that ...

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Posted 28 July 2006 - 02:14 PM

QUOTE (Kevin @ Jul 27 2006, 10:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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They are teaching us free climbing



These are my thoughts on that ...

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I think it's more because of how much we have to climb over. They want us to feel comfortable when we need to unbelt and climb over something.

I was almost able to qualify for steps 1 & 2, but just as we were finishing up with the guy I was helping on the pole, it started raining. That turned to pouring, so he came down (was almost done anyway) and we had to pack things up. It was close enough to time to leave, so they just let us out a bit early. I'm up first for Monday though.
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Posted 12 August 2006 - 02:22 PM

I learned how to free climb, then hitch hike. When we have to climb a pole, chances are it is a bad one. How do they propose you hitch hike around 2 (or more) conduits, cable drops, secondary, a transformer, maybe a buck, then to your work position? When I leave the ground I don't belt off until I have to. Yeah, there are times where I belt off to circle the pole because I have to, but other than that, just climb it. Now, if I am just flat beat, I will hitch hike down where I can.....But, whatever they want I will do. Just how it is.

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Posted 12 August 2006 - 03:34 PM

You have to use a bypass on every obstruction up here now.
Take a fall without using it and there's a better than good chance you won't see compensation for any injuries sustained from the fall.
The higher up the stick you need to work the bigger the pain in the ass it becomes.
You lose the freedom of movement with a choker, the work takes longer and becomes more frustrating but nobody gets hurt from taking a fall.
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Posted 12 August 2006 - 04:18 PM

Same thing here. I totally agree.
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Posted 13 August 2006 - 07:00 AM

We just got our second safety and it's not as bad as it appeared at first. It's an 8' rope safety and the good thing is that it doesn't have to be tight, just around the pole. You can walk up as high as you can in your first safety, stretch the rope out as far as you want, go as high as you can and attach it, then kind of free climb past as many obstructions as you need to. Hard to explain but you don't have to attach it over every single obstacle...........

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Posted 13 August 2006 - 07:19 AM

I read into that when you hit an obstruction you safety off above it with the rope then climb as high as you can over as many obsticles as possible before you safety back in with your pole strap and then removing the rope?

That rope is Samson Blue Streak, rated to 8,100lbs. tensile.
It should have a cover over it because the cover yarns will all get pulled on the wood and steel.
I used a rope for awhile but it was three strand, worked ok but I switched to a nylon polestrap and carry it in a pouch on my belt but I'm only climbing up to the comm cables and don't use it as often as the power guys would.
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Posted 13 August 2006 - 08:51 AM

We use jelco retractable lanyards. I think it's better being retractable.
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Posted 13 August 2006 - 09:05 AM

The thing I don't like for my own personal use with the Jelco (bolted version) is the fact I don't need it that often and I would be carrying that extra weight for nothing most of the time.
The rope can be a tripping hazard and a royal pain in the butt .
We really need something better, something retractable but without the weight.
Something to keep in mind with the rope is that the strength is in the outer sheath, the core is just there to keep the rope round under load.
If the outer sheath gets cut up then the rope has lost all it's strength.
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Posted 13 August 2006 - 09:14 AM

I don't seem to find that the jelco adds that much weight but I guess it has been there from the day I started so I don't notice the extra weight.
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Posted 13 August 2006 - 09:27 AM

I'm guessing at three to five pounds.
Like carrying a second 3lb. line hammer on your belt.
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